Conditions seemed to vary depending on how wind and sun affected the area was. One side of the gully was much firmer than the other, the soft side seemed to have a poorly bonded fasset layer on top and the other side was better but still tricky going. A lot of foot penetration everywhere. Decent via judges was tricky at times with slushy snow from the southern exposure on top of ice, then bare ice below the treeline on the trail.